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Whats up with Erehwon

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Amiable Hymyland

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 11:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Well, I'm glad to see people are finnally seeing the syth for what they are.

Socialist State Of Vegemite Valley

Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post
Grey you are the reason i left the monkey's, if you read the newpapers you will realise kodiak declared on all erehwons countries. It was me that followed suit, im not letting anybody take erehwons countries without a good reason and if they do i am the first one on the scene stopping them. As for the war bug that stopped the war, i was the first one to stop using it and if erehwon returns he will confirm this. The only war bug was redeploying units leaving him undefended, so stop being to honourable guy by posting shit. You would have also saw me on mirc last night, so why didnt you say something then?


Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 03:12 am Click here to edit this post
Sorry, I didn't realize "Socialist State of Vegemite Valley" was you Grail. Are Jackle and Faith no longer friends? Is that why you don't know why Faith started the declarations?

I have now looked at the newspapers, and I see that Faith started the declarations. Kodiak probably isn't trying to take them, but just protect them as he has done numerous times before. Kodiak is one of Erehwon's closest fed mates.

Considering the Syth's repeated push to allow Faith into the 12 Monkeys, we can only assume that your discourse has continued and an alliance has been formed between the two of you now that you've left our fed. So we've been assuming that you knew why Faith started declaring, and are working in cooperation with him.

Also, please quit trying to make your decision to leave the 12M a personal issue against just me. I didn't start the eviction vote and I only contributed one vote in each eviction round. Quit trying to single me out.

Actually, you know what? I forsee a smear campaign coming so I'll post a little timeline for any interested third parties:


A couple weeks ago HR (Holy Reign / Outland) was a member of our fed and made some apparently unfriendly comments about the 12 Monkeys on the Bulletin Board. We questioned him about them, and he acted similarly unfriendly towards us.

A fed vote was started by a 12 Monkey member (not me) to evict HR, citing similarly obnoxious and inflammatory in-game messages since HR's membership began a few weeks prior. This was followed by increasingly offensive comments and accusations by HR in a mIRC chatroom and in simcountry messages. Being that I am the chairman of the 12M, and I was making the foolish choice to respond to some of HR's accusations, he increasingly focused his attacks on me.

The vote required 75% to pass, and had enough votes before current Syth members and HR barely blocked it.

After waiting long enough, I started the eviction vote back up. I also sent a message letting the federation know that if the vote didn't pass, I would leave the federation and start up a new fed. Any members (besides HR) would have been welcomed into it.

During this entire time HR had been calling me names and the Syth had been voicing their opposition to HR's eviction, but it wasn't until now that HR claimed that he "wasn't the only one in the fed to think I was a pussy." (or 'baby', I can't remember which).

I assumed it was Jackle who was saying these things behind my back, and he didn't deny it. So I tried to exemplify to him exactly why I wanted HR out of the fed. I drew a comparison to the way I supported Jackle's membership since the beginning of the 12 Monkeys even despite opposition within the fed (and members we lost because of accepting the Syth). I was trying to point out that it was only HR's complete lack of a "team" attitude that was motivating my vote. Otherwise I would have stood behind him as I stood behind Jackle.

This time the vote wasn't blocked, and HR was evicted. Following this, Jackle sent a message saying that I made him feel unwelcome (despite my protests). He and Grail left the federation, and took over our secondary fed "More Monkeys". They have since then changed the name to "serpents of the sith" and there is currently no contact that I know of between our two feds.

I didn't say anything to you in mirc last night Grail because I didn't log in and read my fed messages until today. Also, I was only at my computer long enough to log into messenger services and check my mail last night.

On a related note, I'm heading out and won't be back home until tommorrow, so have a good night/day.

Socialist State Of Vegemite Valley

Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:40 pm Click here to edit this post
I must say grey, Erehwon is lucky to have a knight in shining armour like you protecting his countries. BUT!!!! i am wondering why thak is about to fall? i am also wondering how your protecting Erehwon from me when your not at war with any of his countries? Maybe before you start throwing around baseless accusations on the bb you should get your facts straight.

Socialist State Of Vegemite Valley

Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 01:13 pm Click here to edit this post
Now since ive been accused of dishonour again i will give a timeline of events as i see them, not that i care what people think of me, im just sick of people coming in as the hero at my expense
Game month september 4 of faiths countries declare on gondolin, i wonder what is happening maybe erehwon has given it away... no action

Game month October.....9-10th 4 of kodiak's countries declare on most of erehwons countries.Im thinking erehwon is leaving and handed over his countries so i check his home page and he hasnt logged in for 3 weeks. I didnt think erehwon would leave without saying goodbye so i just start declaring on all his countries. If hes giving them away i was going to attempt to take some for myself and if his countries are being taken by force i was going to be there putting pressure on the attackers. My war dec came on the 23rd of oct.
27th oct faith starts declaring on the rest of his countries, 29th oct kush gets in on the action and starts declaring aswell.

Ive got no idea whats happening at this stage so i post this thread on the bb asking whats happening.

Game month november.....4th nov cymru mawr and Cymru Tri declares on colchis darkover and barsoom.
im starting to wonder if some of erehwons allies are splitting up his empire

December 3 almoth declares on Barsoom,now im sure they are dividing up his empire. 19th dec unitedfools declares on Erehwon3 and Gondolin probably to add more pressure on the aggressors.

Jan 24 Suomenmaa NO CEO declared war on Icaria according to grey the 12m attemp to stop the evil me. Greys post "The 12 Monkeys have declared on his countries to protect them from the Syth. We don't think Erehwon should be taken advantage of in this way. Any countries taken by us will be returned if possible."

I wont be firing any shots at erehwon apart from keeping my wars active, but if i see any about to be captured i will attempt to take them.

Does anybody know why he hasnt logged in?


Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 02:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Is Nurd-er back ?? :)


Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 02:42 pm Click here to edit this post
The first declarations were in September, by Faith:

Declaration of War
Honour has declared war on Gondolin.
Sat Sep 18, 2162 Honour has declared war on Gondolin. War will start on 18-01-2163.

Declaration of War
Nemesis has declared war on Gondolin.
Sat Sep 18, 2162 Nemesis has declared war on Gondolin. War will start on 18-01-2163.

Declaration of War
Hope has declared war on Gondolin.
Sat Sep 18, 2162 Hope has declared war on Gondolin. War will start on 18-01-2163.

Declaration of War
Faith has declared war on Gondolin.
Sat Sep 18, 2162 Faith has declared war on Gondolin. War will start on 18-01-2163.


Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 02:43 pm Click here to edit this post
And once again, for reasons stated above, we are assuming that Faith is part of your alliance. In other words, we're considering Faith, in essence, to be part of the Syth.


Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 06:30 pm Click here to edit this post
I think it is time to put some meat on the bones - Matt C has gone AWOL but this has happened before and then returned - the plan was around flooding his e mail to get him to log in again - but this has not worked. The countries that make up Erehwon PAC will stay together as the defence is too strong now to break down especially with the amount of defensive missiles that can be bought now until Matt returns.

For the record Thak was taken as it was not a part of any federation and on Matt's return it too will be returned to it's respective owner.

As for me and the Syth - i think in this world currently I would say without a single doubt that they are the most loyal and trusted people to be teamed up with as I have fought wars against them and they are one for all ..... we do have an agreement that we would never fire on each others lands and for the last 6 months to a year we have all kept that agreement.
But the question still remains on whether I have teamed up with them -

I do have a member of the Syth in my federation and talk to The Jackle and Rob K on a regular basis. We have previously talked about 12m fed and Syth and AF and UNSC and Erehwon PAC but not in any depth.

On a parting shot though if there was a civil war in the 12m, I would not hesitate to support Jackle and Rob with my small army.

Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer !!!

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