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Provolone's war with Axis mundi WG (NG2)

Simcountry: Simcountry Bulletin Board  Provolone's war with Axis mundi WG (NG2)

hymyland III

Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 09:42 pm Click here to edit this post
"So you're saying that attacking Allied Forces countries doesn't come with consequences? Good to know."

You noticed that too, huh. ;(

Infidelia

Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post
"You accuse people of practising double standards, yet you seem to be quite willing to keep my so called illegal copied country. See the contridiction here? he takes over the country on the basis it was illegal, then keeps it for himself instead of deregging it."

I transferred nothing out of it and did not take it to GR. It was deregistered with the rest of my Empire on Fearless Blue. Stick it up your ass and smoke it.

Infidelia

Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:13 pm Click here to edit this post
You were probably eyeing my countries for a long time given the amount of preparation i saw you put in your defense and offense which probably took a month to build up and the way you confidently attacked me. Acusing me of cheating is just a way to hide your power-hungry ambitions.

You are rather stupid if you think it took awhile to build up an attack force. Suomenmaa (who did most of the fighting as I was on vacation) had multiple slaves within range of you for quite awhile. His main was almost within range. It was defending his attack forces.

Your country on FB wasn't defended nearly adequately anyway. Oh well, what should I expect. A good cheater?

KillerK

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 03:40 am Click here to edit this post
First of all eskon, i can swear i only did made one copy once. I did not make 3-4 copies as all as you had claimed.(that would have cost me way too much). I did not know why you guys kept accusing me of making multiple copies of the country and blowing matters out of proportions. I am sure many of us here (erewhon for example) used loopholes one way or another before, so stop acting all so high and mighty.

Second, you only made the comment on deregging elrane after i criticized your double standards. How convienent.


With regard to ceres messaging me on FB, all i can say was that i was active on GR and didn't check my messages on FB. You probably would have noticed that when you attacked my countries on FB without me even counterattacking.


With regards to infidelia, the double standards i meant was with regard to GR not FB.
And no, i'm not stupid. The countries that attacked me were all recently moved. They declared war on me the FIRST few months when they were transferred to GR and obviously lots of preparation had been done before hand.

And a last point, the war system now is screwed. I would have blown ur forces out of the sky if they didn't implement the 10k weapon limit. It basically and jeep-heli ammo fight now. Fatal oversight for not realising this earlier.

Anyway, i really want to thank you guys taking out my countries. To tell the truth, my countries were on the verge of collapse with the collapse of the oil and gasoline market and at some points, i didn't even feel like spending the 5 bucks to mantain the countries. Furthermore, the game has been getting worse everyday with new rules implemented everyday. Now, i can save money, reduce my time on simcountry and study more. Maybe is a blessing in disguise.
Well, i think i'm done for the day in simcountry. To all my beloved friends and opponents, i hope you guys continue to have fun playing simcountry. Bye

Hymyland IV

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 03:52 am Click here to edit this post
Yeah, this oil/auto/gasoline crisis is a real pain in the arse. I really feel we're all gonna pay the price for W3C's lack of consideration for what the moves would do to the Economy of GR.

Ceres

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 08:25 am Click here to edit this post
And a last point, the war system now is screwed. I would have blown ur forces out of the sky if they didn't implement the 10k weapon limit. It basically and jeep-heli ammo fight now. Fatal oversight for not realising this earlier.


Agreed kenneth, and agreed again. My longer term goal was to change this. that was the purpose of the 12 monkeys :D, but I phase in and out of caring. mostly out. In again, for the moment.

If one of us is lucky, genie still has the DB records to show how many clones you had...if it matters ;)

If I recall properly, You made an additional 2 copies after I messaged you on fearless. You certailny did log in after that, although I suppose you might not have read your messages.

Acting 'high and mighty' in this case means only a determination to abide by the rules. Im pretty sure you already know that I hold that attitude in high esteem...not everyone does use loopholes. I dont think erehwon has ever done so intentionally. Neither have I, except in efforts to determine how something is done to get it fixed, and in those cases, only once.

I still remember first discovering the 'infinite purchase' bug which you used to great effect in your FB conquests :) (btw, that should tell you who I am, if you didnt notice me saying I was the one who rescued the country this is all about from being deregged by hackers :P)

ken, you might want to check back on GR if and when the monkeys are succeful in getting both major war limits removed or altered. If and when that occurs, you and many other people would have the chance to wreak vengenace on eskon and any allies he might have. Until then you and pretty much everyone else desiring major non-stupid conflict is out of luck.

Regardless, good luck. You should probably be spending more time studying anwyay :D

Hymy...I really feel we're all gonna pay the price for W3C's lack of consideration for what the moves would do to the Economy of GR.

I think youre taking the w3c bashing a bit too far :D Perhaps you might have realized the immininet oil/gasoline/cars surplus yourself. EAsily predicatable. W3d is not required to make your countries successful, nor to ensure that the same staid, tired choices continue to provide an infinite supply of dolleuros for all eternity ;)

Half the 'action' (heh heh heh) in the game is responding to market changes. that was merely one of them.

almoth

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post
Regarding the market. I guess people should have anticipated it. But i guess people didnt realise the scale on which it would change things.

OIL:
Quite simple whats happening, the market is flooded because those transferring have good countries, and oil has always been a staple of profitable countries. The market keeps dropping because these oil companies have high assets and people are hoping the market will bounce back. Its become a game of who can hold out longest.

GASOLINE/CARS:
A bit different, the market was initially flooded, but many players have closed down a lot of their gasoline and car corps. The trouble is, that when this created a shortage the c3 countries started building them, because the c3 countries dont know for instance that cars are a bad prospect now. If the world was purely human players these would bottom out at a reasonably profitable corporation. But the combination of c3 building when a shortage does happen, plus a base of high asset corps holding on (with falling assets) has kept the market depressed.

Finally, matt.

I appreciate that you feel wars are needed to make his game less boring, and that the war system should be changed to allow large armies to use their full force. I can totally understand the philosophy behind your thinking (i remember the late night chats ;p ).

But quite a few people moved to GR a long time ago to avoid the shooting galleries on the other worlds, not wanting to have to log on every day to check for wars. Hoping to roleplay, get w3 to introduce features such as a worthwhile stock exchange, limited resources which would hugeley increase player interaction (its silly that every country can produce oil..there shold be limited areas where oil occurs like in the real world. or that people nowhere near the sea produce fish etc), research centres, goverment types etc etc.

So, while war is and should be a part of the game, for quite a few GR players i think its viewed as a nessecary evil rather than an attraction

Ellie

Missouri

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 03:01 pm Click here to edit this post
Well one thing I've noticed is if you not only control a supply for your corps, but the amount they pay for it, it really matters not what you buy or sell for if you really want to save a corporation.

Question is .. if I can get all the bases covered fast enough.

As far as my car corps go it's been material buying (particularly steel) that's been hurting them not sales. They sell 100% production at +150 every month .. they just buy ungodly amounts of material.

Every corp I've locked down not only the price but quanity on has started turning around.

almoth

Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 05:07 pm Click here to edit this post
are you using the country to buy the steel and then selling it back to the corps at market price missouri?. It seems a way of keeping the corps supplied with cheap materiel. But of course it means you cant buy ammunition, weapons etc.

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