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W3C - Peaceful Countries - initial implementation

Simcountry: Simcountry Bulletin Board  W3C - Peaceful Countries - initial implementation

Jozi

Friday, December 12, 2003 - 04:39 pm Click here to edit this post
The concept of peaceful countries is now implemented into the game and is available on Golden Rainbow.

It is also running on White giant and upgrading will be completed later today on the other two worlds.

In the initial implementation, a country can convert to a peaceful state no matter its current state. If it is a member of a federation, it has to leave the federation and convert.

It can convert even if it is in war or part of an empire. There is currently no population limit.

The conversion is final. There is no way back from a peaceful status.

New players now have 100 months of war protection. This is also an initial implementation and more details will be published in a next message and will be discussed. When moveing from another world, the protection period remains 18 months.

We have read all the opinions in the discussion and we know that some people want to push their war objectives to the end. There is a lot of a principle discussion but also some based on the current status of the war and personal interest.

We have now chosen to allow countries in war to escape destruction. In the past many countries were destroyed with people close to tears as they lost beautiful countries they worked months to build.

We are very disappointed with ourselved that this peaceful country idea was not implemented before.

This game is played by people who like the dynamics of competition and are able and willing to spend the time and make the effort to build empires and make the top.

The game is also intended for people who like the complexities, like to build something nice and see it doing wel and have only a limited time to play.

We feel that we have failed many of these people who have told us what happened to their countries and many would not have joined the game if they knew how aggressive it could be.

There are so many games on the internet, many of them with much more beatiful graphics, a lot of magic and contineous war.

Simcountry will be one of the few games where both groups can play without disturbing each other.

We are not going to stop the war game or reduce it. We will keep developing it and fix any bug we can find.

The feaceful countries will not get in the way of people who are playing the full game.

In all four worlds, there is plenty of space and plenty of possibilites to build empires and fight huge wars.

There is now also some space to live in peace.

This feature is far from complete. It will be discussed in details and all arguments will be considered. Work will continue to complete this feature within several weeks.

Jonas

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 12:20 am Click here to edit this post
Wheee, nice :)
Hopefully more new player will stay now.

Grey

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 01:25 am Click here to edit this post
I thought there was a reason countries couldn't de-register or destroy their country during war.

Someone we were mere hours away from conquering just put up the 'peace-only' flag. And he didn't have to dereg any of his war countries. I don't think this is fair at all.

Jozi is it your intention for this backdoor to be available to anyone who engages themselves in a war? Because that's what this person did. He engaged himself. If that is your intention then the implications are discouraging at best. Right now I could go around doing whatever I want...attacking whoever I want...I could even cut all my military to get an award and have nothing to worry about (this particular person had multiple accounts to avoid rebels and award penalties.) If someone comes to engage me, I can simply wait until my attackers have put forth hours and hours of hard work, watch them spend trillions of dollars and waste tons of assets, then once they're near accomplishing their goal I'll put the "peace-only" tag up. You're ending the conquest part of the game.

In this case we've spent an amazing amount of effort to finish off this war, and now at the moment of triumph all our weapons are rendered useless, and now I have no choice but to destroy some of them because I don't need them where they are anymore.

I thought this was intended to give more free reign to peaceful countries and war countries both. But I can't bring myself to attack anyone now because I know my weapons will probably be wasted when they put the flag up.

Hymyland V

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 01:48 am Click here to edit this post
Well you wanted to change the game dynamic. Didn't anyone ever tell you that when you try to achieve change, that it doesn't always work out in your favor?

Grey

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 01:53 am Click here to edit this post
Do you realize Erehwon compromised his entire empire for your imcompetent, morally flexible, annoying little self?

Yes, I realize the world isn't perfect Hymyland. Thank you for contributing though. Now if you have something constructive to add to the conversation, please do so.

Erehwon

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 03:27 am Click here to edit this post
It's OK, Matty. I knew that I was losing my airforce and my ability to defend myself by defending an ally. He wasn't your principal target anyway...

Grey

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 04:15 am Click here to edit this post
I know you realize what was going on, I'm just getting tired of hymy's unwarranted chiding and taunting. He tries to preach down to people about morals even though he has none, tactics even though his only tactics are 1) hiding behind someone bigger and throwing insults for years, 2) using bugs, and 3) ganging up on smaller players. It's like the only reason he stays in this game is to taunt people with his hypocrisies. He clearly hasn't been spending nearly as much time working on his countries.

And he was a principle target, but for a completely different reason than you were.

It's too bad he joined Cyriac in putting the flag up. It would have been poetic justice to use the country you all ganged up on and used bugs on to conquer you. The largest, most planned out war in the history of simcountry has been effectively ended by administrator interference. I guess that's what you get for playing fair. More people have to be involved to play fair, so the admin notices and steps in.

Erehwon2

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 04:42 am Click here to edit this post
Matty, you can still hack away at me!

But if you really want to plan some more, I'd be happy to allow you and your allies a few game years of breathing space for planning and rearming! I know you guys would want alot of time, but I'd be willing to compromise on the number. :)

Erehwon2

Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 04:44 am Click here to edit this post
BTW, I don't think that I ever abused a bug on anybody in this game. I'm not sure about the ganging up part, but taking countries from active players has never been my thing.

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