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MaBo

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post
Two and a half months ago, when I first started up my ceo on this world I noted that the ceo "Mousepants" had been inactive for three weeks. So I sent her a message telling her I was going to bid on her corps because she was inactive. I also told her that if she ever came back and told me to stop bidding, I would stop immediately. As I found out in the thread linked below, I wasn't the only person to do this.

She came back about a week later after I had bought 3 of her corps, made this thread, and demanded her corps back in a far from polite way. Even despite how rude she was, I probably would have let her buy those corps back if she bid on them, but she didn't.

Since then, she's logged into her ceo about once every 10 days, and has always been ranked far higher than me since she was here long before me.

1) I don't think someone who doesn't care about the game enough to log into it deserves to collect more money than people like myself who log in at least once a day.

2) Bidding is a fair and legal aspect of this game. There are some player-imposed rules on bidding against active players, but I don't consider Mousepants to be active. She is exploiting this common rule and pushing the limits to collect money without any effort (meanwhile keeping others from collecting it.)

3) Mousepants does not have a country, but has many military corporations which she doesn't need. I only brought my countries over in this past month, and really need to build my defenses up.

For these reasons, when I saw that Mousepants took another 2-week vacation recently, I bid on some of her military corps. One, maybe two of my friends did the same thing before I did, bidding on only military corps and leaving the money-making corps alone.

When she came back, she bid on three of my military corps and sent this message:

From: Mousepants
To: MaBo
Real Date: 01-10-2003 21:14:57
World Date: January 31 2137

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Subject: Enough?
Message: I think you have preyed on me enough. Now leave me the hell alone.


I messaged her back and explained why I felt I was justified in bidding on her corps. I also told her that if she left the corps she bid on alone, I would quit bidding on her corps as well. She didn't respond or retract anything for two game months. So I sent her another message letting her know that I was still waiting to know if she wanted to accept this treaty, and I bid on some more of her corps since my queue was empty. Then I recieved this message:

From: Mousepants
To: MaBo
Real Date: 02-10-2003 18:46:56
World Date: March 28 2137

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Subject: Re: Still waiting...
Message: You bid on more of my corps and i will attempt to defend them. I dont have much to lose so I will do what i can to thwart you and your allies too and i will request help from my friends as well. You Deserve? If I cant login as much as you then you are a better person? You seem very arrogant!


After that she renewed bids on my corps.

You may or may not agree with all of my actions, but I felt that anyone who was going to potentially bid on my corps for her deserved to have both sides of the story.

Missouri

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 01:24 am Click here to edit this post
you got anything good???

Illusion

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:49 am Click here to edit this post
I side with MousePants. Ten days and you call he inactive. What...!? Do you click on her every five minutes hoping she will play with your monkey. If she is still paying for her account then you should leave her the f**k alone!!! I'm might be an @$$, but i know that bidding on military corps in treacherous. You're a dirty little scoundrel & i hope you rot in hell. This is open season for CEOs to mess with you buddy.

Oh yeah, and please, don't waste peoples time on the BB with your problems. Plenty of people have WAY more important things to say but do not disturb us. Take your sob story and stick it up your grandmas panties...

Hymyland V

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 03:54 am Click here to edit this post
What is so wrong with leaving people alone to play the game, MABO?

Kreeker Shores

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 05:08 am Click here to edit this post
Three weeks, inactive ???? , hardly my friends. Folks do take a real life vacation once in a while. Courtesy goes a long way in this game. Now, if a player has not logged in for 3 MONTHS, that my friends, appears to be inactive.

Maybe we should have another "player-imposed" rule of the definitions of "inactive player".

Bidding on Corps IS within the realm of the game, but to use the sole reason to bid because you think the player is inactive and they won't be around to "notice" is not a reason to bid on a Corp.

As long as the player has "gold credits" to maintain the account, you should really consider them "active". There is a major portion of the pay world Countries that are "open" (no President) that have Corps you can bid on anytime.

Remember, they are “paying to play” just like you …….

Think about it ..... Enjoy the game ;-)

MaBo

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 07:07 am Click here to edit this post
Bidding on Corps IS within the realm of the game, but to use the sole reason to bid because you think the player is inactive and they won't be around to "notice" is not a reason to bid on a Corp.

"Sole reason"? Perhaps you didn't read the entire post. I even numbered some of the reasons. Let me add #4 though: She is continually rude to me when I try to be diplomatic towards her. You know, like some of you are being right now.

And I was hoping she wouldn't notice? Um, you get sent a message when someone bids on your corps. They're kind of hard to not notice.

Oh well, bring it on if you want to.

MaBo

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post
Ah, thought I recognized you from somewhere Illusion. Seems you, hymyland and I are just an inseperable bunch aren't we? Like the Three Musketeers.

I'm sure I'll be seeing you around. =]

...!?

Alpha Mining

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 09:33 am Click here to edit this post
I`m with MaBo on this, its all part of the game and its perfectly legitimate to buy anothers corps, whether or not they are inactive.
I`ve looked at Mousepants` corps, and many of them are only worth peanuts and losing money, the ones MaBo has bid on are only at minimum walue.

Missouri

Friday, October 03, 2003 - 04:48 pm Click here to edit this post
Actually I can see both sides myself. Yes bidding is part of the game just like war is part of the game.

From Hannah's viewpoint no matter what YOU think anything is worth I wouldn't want anyone coming in and bidding on a bunch of my corporations or attacking my countries.

I tend to look at things from how I'd perceive them based on why I'd do something.

I might "snipe" a particular weapon corp if I not only needed it but the MV vs debt considering production was right but my major purpose for bidding on a weapon corp with reserves would be to prevent the owner from contracting it.

From my viewpoint the only reason to prevent the owner from contracting it would be I think they will at some point in the near future going to need those contracts.

That's why I for one would consider someone bidding on my weapon corps as a precursor to war.

From MaBo's viewpoint it's not uncommon to run across fully upgraded corporations with an extremely low MV and well worth buying no matter what they are.

I've been known to snap up those types of corporations myself.

Obviously a weapon corp no matter what the MV if it is maintaining reserve has a purpose to the individual that owns it and I would tend to stay away from them.

Any other type of corp if it's obviously contracting product, fits into that person's plan in some manner so it would really depend not only on who it was (I'm less likely to take a "good" corp from someone I'm familar with), but whether or not it was worth it to me.

A corp with a low MV considering debt,upgrades, production which is not contracting product is more at "risk" but those are easy to save if they really want by simply dumping in 10B in cash toward the end of the auction.

Generally if someone is obviously fighting to keep a corp or asks me I'll drop the effort. It could be I considered you inactive. GR is slightly different, if someone hasn't signed on in 30 days I might believe they quit paying the tab and are gone.

If you want corps to bid on there are plenty of enterprises with NO CEO's to get decent corps from. If you want weapons IMHO it's better to build a corp and buy part of the production each month and get them over a longer period of time.

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