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A THRILLING QUESTION....CAN YOU ANSWER IT???

Simcountry: Simcountry Bulletin Board  A THRILLING QUESTION....CAN YOU ANSWER IT???

Nimzovich

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:19 pm Click here to edit this post
Y'know, the first miracle recorded that Jesus did was to turn water into wine. Something tells me that God isn't against alcohol.

About smoking--there isn't a word of scripture (much less, the ten commandments) against smoking.

Xiping

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 02:42 am Click here to edit this post
Don't party at Doublestar's.

Oh sure he'll save a whore or two for you, but only serves wine and crackers.

Kingdom of Nismondar

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 01:53 pm Click here to edit this post
Double star what i said wasn't blaspheme, i was mearly explaining the religion that your god chose(Mormons). You get your religous refrences from the bible i get it from southpark and other informative t.v shows.You wanna know what blaspheme is, " hey every one i(nismondar)am god, i'm goin to have a party in heaven soon, so you r all invited. Sorry doublestar your not invited:("
now u can rejoice:)



disclaimer: if i offended anyone here...well....um...GOOD!!!!

House of WINDRICH

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 03:57 pm Click here to edit this post
I think that you need to look further than what is normally considered to be and interpreted as doctrine.

Take for example the thing about immortality.

Let's say for example that Jesus was from the future or could see into the future - He of course he could if he was the living god.

Mostly - the bible is a handbook for living - turn the other cheek - follow the commandments - love thy neighbour - keep within the commandments.

What you find in day to day life is this. The people who follow this or even a part of the day to day life that the bible asks people to live generally are very productive people.

They are generally very constructive people

Now let's take America as an example. America is basically an extremly christian country. And I would say that most of the prominent contructive people who are achievers have some sort of christian morals or even attend church on a regular basis.

Now lets look at progress and achievement. Which country in the world is years ahead financially, and technologically?

America.

America has the nukes, the stealth,everything.

It probably even has anti gravity.

Because of productivity.

Productivity that has a basis on lifestyle and health of the mind

Lifestyle and health of the mind is directly influenced by beliefs.

Those beliefs are rooted in religion.

So when Jesus promises immortality to his followers - that may very well mean that the people or mass of people (countries) that do that - will progress and finally be able to know and understand life - biology.

America has long mapped the entire human genome.

Many scientists believe that the secret to immortality is in the DNA of our cells.

By undertanding and altering this DNA - scientists believe that we will in the next generation - or the one after that be able to make people that will never die.

Immortality.

Nowhere in the bible does it say that - man will never be able to make himself immortal.

And another thing - the bible has been changed soooooo many times throughout the centuries that the true meaning is loooooooong gone.

I belive that the bible is exactly what i've just described.

A handbook for progress.

WINDRICH

Lythallia

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 04:38 pm Click here to edit this post
Oh dear. An American lover.

Now Im a christian, but is there really any need to preach doctine or religious ideals on an online country simulation's message board?

Really.

President of Lythallia.

Nimzovich

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post
And another thing - the bible has been changed soooooo many times throughout the centuries that the true meaning is loooooooong gone.

Do you realize that there is much less than 1% change in the text of the bible (aside from which books to include in the canonization) since the 4th century (the earliest complete bibles known)? Sure, people who try to obey the commandments of the bible will be ethically better than people who try to disobey them. But get your facts straight before saying that no one knows the true meaning of the bible is.

House of WINDRICH

Friday, September 19, 2003 - 02:20 pm Click here to edit this post
less than 1% change?????

It was only last century that the bible was mass produced - before then only th church was allowed to have it and the priests read from it. It wasn't widley available at all!!!

So unless you were there in the 4th century then all you have to back up that claim is just information that someone or something has told you to back up the claim.

What's more i'm not sure if you realise that the bible that we see today was actualy transalated by William Shakespeare and a bucnh of other people who transalated the New Testament from Ancient Greek.

The bible is far from an authentic doctrine.

Nimzovich

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 02:05 am Click here to edit this post
Well, excuse me. I know that the church kept a monopoly on the bible for many years. So? But for your information, there are extant complete bibles from the 4th century that can be examined for how much they differ with today's versions (not to mention fragments that go earlier). And so what of the language? There is enough scholarship that New Testament Greek can be accurately translated.

Yes, I know that Wm Shakespeare and a bunch of other scholars translated the KJV Bible. I have seen all seven printings of the first edition of the KJV. Did you know that in the 1500's Stephanus, while riding horseback to Paris wrote in the verse divisions that are now used? I have seen the very copy that Stephanus wrote on.

That's all beside the point, though. There's enough research, and enough old manuscripts extant to say with great confidence that the text of the bible is very close to what was originally written by the authors of the canonized books.

House of WINDRICH

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 10:02 am Click here to edit this post
Sure - you are talking about bibles from the 4th century.

Four Hundred Years since it was first put together

We have absolutly nothing that says that Jesus himself - the person of whom the New Testament is all about, actually agrees or reinforces what is written there with any authorisation from the man himself.

Jesus was a political royal of the Davidian descent living in a time when Israel was under occupation.

Jesus never declared himself a god.

It was the followers who thought that if they could tell the story right then they eventually could free Israel from occupation.

The bible is a manuscript on living and prospering - it is not a reigious doctrine and it is far from authentic.

Your very admission that the verse divisions were added at a later stage also contends to the fact that a mere man has made his own intertpretation of the bible and has conveyed it to be a very part of the doctrine.

Far from authentic

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