| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:06 am |
I hate to say it, but I'm interested in games where things actually HAPPEN! I play games like Utopia (http://games.swirve.com/utopia) and Dystopia (www.woofcat.com/dystopia). While Dystopia needs alot of work, it still has a faster paced action. Things can literally happen overnight (or even within two minutes). This game, well, something MAY happen after three RL days, but its not bloody likely. Can you believe I'm having to wait freaking three days to buy a corporation? Obviously no one else is bidding on it (I was the first and only bid so far, after two days) and there are dozens of corps very similar no one has voted on! Just let me have the damn thing already so I can make some money with it!
I'm going to give this game another three days, so I can say I've given it a week to prove itself, but if it doesn't speed up anytime soon, I'm gone. Which is pretty sad, since when I first started playing it, I was very excited, because it is such a huge, complicated game (compared to the ones I play) and I like that! I mean, having like over 100 products and stuff on the Market, and all are so interconnected to produce, thats AWESOME, but having to wait so long to actually do anything that its almost another reset (maybe a bit exagerrated) is stupid. Hell, I'm only online once a day, but I want something to CHANGE from one day to the next atleast.
Another thing that has started to irk me, is that there are so few players, I'm taking it, that there has become such a shortage of products. Atleast half of the products have a shortage instead of a surplus! That makes it hard on new players, because they can't start getting anywhere! I tried to build a new company, because it was taking so damn long to get my first auctioned company, and I found a pretty suitable spot, and I built it. Its been three days, and it still hasn't produced one single UNIT! Why? Because it can't get ahold of any services! I don't know how to fix that problem, I'm NEW! So, I have a company that cost money to start, that can't do anything, and is just blowing its own cash away!
The problem here, I believe, is the lack of players. Kebir Blue has something like 1500 players? Utopia, one of the other games I play, has 80,000+!!!! They've had over 100,000 players before! There are definately enough players to make things interesting. The biggest draw for most Utopia players? The community! They have a chance to meet and talk to people from all over the world! That makes it fun to play. Also, a strong sense of patriotism keeps players from quitting. We have countries in Utopia, but each country has many players in it, they own what are called provinces. Each country has its own forum, and its own regent, elected BY THE PEOPLE of the country. Kingdoms (countries) stay together when the rounds are reset, if people choose that option. By staying with a kingdom for a few ages, you develope a bond with your kd-mates. The closer you are to your kingdom, the better you do as a whole. I don't see anything like that in this game though, no one is even trying to develope any bonds, and there really aren't even very many people posting on these forums!
| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 01:17 am |
lol take it easy!!
| Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 02:45 pm |
Entertainment: You are quite perceptive in noting that this game is NOT Utopia. It was designed to be a totally different game. It is also aimed at a different audience.
In examining your Enterprise, I notice you have started the "hard" way, by bidding on existing corporations. Yes, it does take a long time to acquire a corp that way. Building your own takes much less time, anywhere from 1-12 hours realtime.
FWIW, you might want to start over and just start by building ONE service corp. Run it for a few days (or more) to learn the game, then build a 2nd one.
DO NOT BUY ANY EXISTING CORPS UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE. Once you learn how to run a corp well, then you can go bargain-hunting. Buying a corp for 10M that has 70B in debt means you spent 70.01 B (plus all that ugly interest). You can build new for about a quarter or less of that.
Look at how some of the top players have set up their corps. Learn from others, ask questions.
You have to learn about setting selling price, upgrades, salaries, managing debt, and learning what the different sections of your corp report are telling you. None of these things are hard, but it can be a little much at the start.
Your current situation is going to produce a frustrating experience for you. Your service corp is profitable but your other 2 are not, and are unlikely to be. If you see a corp is failing, and you can't fix it, it is better to close it while is has a small debt rather than wait for the game to close it for you when the debt is over 150B.
You aren't the first player to start off the way you did. I did the same thing about a year ago.
| Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 09:04 pm |
Yes, I did start off by bidding on a corporation. After that, I built one, but it hasn't even got off the ground after almost a week, because it can't get the materials neccessary to even START producing. Maybe I did things wrong, but atleast in other games you can still fix if you've screwed up, even if it is a costly fix! Hehe, I'm not sure how to fix anything here.
| Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 11:48 pm |
You don't hafta quit because it's slow. Just play another game while your waiting.
| Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 11:52 pm |
Oh forgot to add, it's impossible for it to be any faster, because of the massive complexity of the sim, the server can't process it fast enough. The sim also gets more complex as it runs.
When it first went online KB was able to run 3 months a day. It's really grinding to a halt these days.
Last I heard anything about it, it was taking the server like 12 hours just to crunch through 1 months worth of the games process.
| Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:39 pm |
OMG why don't they buy a decent server then o_O
Look what servers they use...
| Friday, May 14, 2004 - 02:36 pm |
I have played Utopia and a few other similar games - But well I got bored after 2 Y or so.
And one BIG advantage with this game being a bit slower is that there is time for RL too - and hmm one can defintitvely spend alot of time online with this game even at this speed..
Micromanagement? yeah ;)
| Monday, May 17, 2004 - 09:31 pm |
If you want services then you should go out and buy some. They're being produced in massive quantities. Either buy them with an immediate order or make a deal with a player who makes allot of them (say, me for example). There is a massive shortage of them so logically they should be hard to get.