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Simcountry: Simcountry Bulletin Board  How do you retain products?

University of Montana at Missoula

Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 10:37 pm Click here to edit this post
@ Thebes ..

If you are unsure for what asking price to set the Corps product, set it at "best price" for the moment. As you buy your upgrades and you get a feel for the market situation, then set your selling prices manually. A good formula to use is the current setting for its quality level minus 100. So if it is at 130, sell for 30. 250 sell, for 150. Remember, it is always minus 100. If it’s a brand new Corp at 100 levels, set it to “best price” initially.

If you don't sell your products, your debt will rise substantially and your debt will auto-close the Corp. Quite a self-defeating process just to "save" some of the product produced.

Also, the game gods have set the "product hording" to a maximum of 6 game months of production. After the 6th month, the product just vanishes (it does not get sold) and you only get 50% of the current market value plus 5%, from the World Bank. You loose profit. You gain debt.

Not a good idea.

hymyland

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 12:20 am Click here to edit this post
If you don't put it on the market, it can't vanish for half price. All you need do is disable the auto sell feature, and the product won't go onto the market.

Action

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 01:59 am Click here to edit this post
Thebes: Don't you go and start quoting the documentation now. Next you'll be quoting the newbie guide... ;)

Actually some of the documentation is a little outdated and some of the advice you'll get assumes you know things that you may or may not know. It really boils down to what Hymy said - try things out. Experiment and see for yourself. Some of the W3C changes are publicized, some aren't. Plus different players have different styles, which results in some interesting strategies. Some things you do to make money, and others you do to get a better score. Fortunately, some things help both.

As far as hoarding or saving back production during times of oversupply: Price changes were recently tweaked to allow them to change significantly during a month if an over/under supply condition develops. This means that those Services that you could sell for 1600 in May might be bringing 1400 in August. Even your upgrades aren't going to help you there. So, unless you need to save some back for contracts or to reserve a little to help out some of your other corps, it might be wise to sell it when you make it. U-Mont-Miss and Hymy have some good advice. Above all, don't feel shy about experimenting. The lessons you learn yourself are far superior than any you are taught by others.

University of Montana at Missoula

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 03:06 am Click here to edit this post
Hmmm, let me make sure I have this right Hymyland.

You have an Oil Corp. It produces 30,000,000 tons monthly, currently selling for 183 $E per ton.

You decide to horde the Oil produced, by setting your “retain product” to an infinite number. You generate 0 (that’s zero) in sales revenue.

Your Oil Corp needs to continue operations in order to function and produce this Oil you want to “retain”. Your Corp pays out (on average) 7B $E in salaries, supplies and (ever increasing) interest payments. Your Corps balance sheet records 0 (that’s zero) in monthly income revenue.

This “hording” continues. The debt increases. The Corps interest payments double triple quadruple.

The Corps “value” plummets from it’s “pre-hording” value of (an example) 100T $E down to an “on verge of collapse” value of 0.01B $E.

The Corp auto closes. It’s 100T $E debt is transferred to the Countries debt, saddling the Countries economy. All the employees of the Oil Corp are now unemployed, saddling additional burden on your already overwhelmed welfare system, increasing the Countries debt substantially.

All the Oil that you have been “hording” in the Oil Corp is gone because the Corp auto-closed. You can’t sell it now. You have nothing.

All this, …. Because you wanted to “wait” for the price of Oil to rise from 183 $E per ton, to 200 $E per ton, so you could make a “killing” in profit.

Well, Hymyland. The only thing that got killed, …. Was your Oil Corp. And now, your Country is “bleeding” from its debt.

Hmmmmm, let me make sure I have this right Hymyland ……………..

Yea, I think I do ……….

hymyland

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 04:56 am Click here to edit this post
No, you just have no imagination.

I suggest you do some reading. I never tried it but many players have used it to their advantage. I never bothered, too much work to do right. Whether it will work now, I don't know.

Much of the written stuff dealing with this is on either the FB or WG boards I can't remember which. In anycase it's easier if your a CEO.

hymyland

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 05:03 am Click here to edit this post
You know it occurs to me nobody actually answered the question.

To retain product click my actions:game settings:change automatic systems. uncheck the box for product sells, for each corp to retain product.

University of Montana at Missoula

Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 06:53 am Click here to edit this post
ROFL !!!!.

Thanks hymyland, I really did need a good laugh today.

Where do I start, eh !!


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If you don't put it on the market, it can't vanish for half price. All you need do is disable the auto sell feature, and the product won't go onto the market.



Yes, hymyland, your statement is true. Your product won’t vanish for half price; it will just vanish completely, when the Corp auto closes from the product that “does not go to market”.
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No, you just have no imagination.




Really now ??????. It’s obvious that you do
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I suggest you do some reading.




Of course, right away. I would hope that you do the same. It is quite apparent, that you missed it completely, what the meaning of my prior post was.
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I never tried it




Now we are getting somewhere. Umm, before you scream fire in a crowed theater, I suggest you “study” the ramifications of the consequences first. The same applies to the principals of this game.
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whether it will work now, I don't know.




Ahhh, yes. (See above)
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I can't remember which




Memory is the key. With the proper “key”, it will “open” many “doors”. It may be possible, but you may wish to consult the game protocols for review.
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You know it occurs to me nobody actually answered the question.




Interesting that you would say that. Please check HERE
It is very important to pay attention to the “details”. When you do, you will succeed.

Good luck with your game.



PS: By the way, the Original Question was answered HERE What you suggest is fine, however you either also have to place a "number" in the manual settings or check the "automatic" to "retain" the product. Good try though

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