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Zetetic Elench dam Kahveh (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 12:33 pm Click here to edit this post
@FarmerBob:

I must admit, I'm not a fan of the talk of rights either. It is next to impossible to answer your questions about who grants them and who guarantees them without referring to some deity which I don't believe in. I was using the word purely because it runs throughout this thread and is very convenient shorthand that disguises a complex semantic issue.

I've also just looked up the European Convention on Human Rights which applies to all members of the Council of Europe. Even that allows for the death penalty (although only in times of war or imminent war). That said, the only members to retain the death penalty are Russia and they haven't used it in ten years, and Latvia who retain it for use in times of war.

So, I can't even claim that our 'right' to life is guaranteed under European Law. There is a right to life under the Charter of Fundamental Rights, but that is not a legally binding document. Damn!

That said, in common with most Europeans, I oppose the death penalty. I would rather see convicted criminals locked up for life, than find out that an innocent one was executed by mistake. In that sense, all I have is the moral repulsion of the death of an innocent individual. Sadly, morals aren't absolute. 'Thou shalt not kill' from the Ten Commandments seems pretty absolute to me, but it seems the southern states of America (generally, the more Christian), seem to have found some leeway in it as they execute more than the northern states.

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