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DavePat (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 04:18 pm Click here to edit this post
Comparing this to Bigfoot or to false death announcements is silly to say the least. Those have nothing in comparrision to this.

Now the law and I will have to correct myself on one point i made earlier.

If you are born outside the US to at least one US citizen parent, yes you can claim your US citizenship. There are various other factors involved the chief being the law at the time of your birth and or accepting your US citizenship. Again I am not going to repeat what is in the filings since they are easy to read. What you learned in school is very basic, far too basic.

Sources you ask for:

Title 28 USC 1331
ArticleII and III of the constitution of the US
The Constitution of Kenya
The Constitution of Indonesia
Section 301(a)(7) US immigration and naturalization act of 1952
Nationality Act of 1940 Section 317(b)
Title 8 USC 1435

Whether he was born in hawaii is actually moot for all intents and purposes. This is why: His mother moved him to Indonesia when he was 6. He was registerred in a School in that country not under his name of Obama but his name of Barry Soetoro, the name her new husband choose for him. On the registration it states that Barry (Barak) was his adopted son. Even if he was in fact not adopted it does not matter, under indonesian and then existing US law the mother had in fact given up not only her but HIS US citizenship a right of being his guardian parent. In order to reclaim his Citizenship he would have had to APPLY for US citizenship which would have been granted immediately between the ages of 18 and 21 but he would not be a native born but rather a naturalized citizen. His citizenship having been surrendered by his parent this would be the only way under law for him to become a citizen again, he also whould have had to give up his indonesian citizenship which means surrendering his indonesian passport something we know as fact that had not occured as late as 1981. Of course he had till 1983 to actually go before one of the legal offices to have sworn an oath and be granted said citizenship but in no way or manner would he be a native born citizen any longer.

All the rest - born in Kenya, Hawaii, getting his Birth Certificate, etc is all moot to this last item. To surmount it Obama has to produce a lot of documents but the one mountain I can not in reading the law that he will have a huge problem getting around is the fact he held an indonesian passport which is given ONLY to citizens of Indonesia, which is sufficient proof of him not being a citizen of the US. It also supports the history that lead up to it, and follows US law and thinking at the time - that a parent can surrender for a minor child all the protections, rights and obligations of US citizenship. Again the law provided a means for him to reclaim those items only not as a native born citizen which is required if you want to be president or vice president. This passport was not to a child either, but to a 20 year old adult!

Now give me a legal argument to surrmount that.

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