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Debate Topic: America Bashing (Little Upsilon)

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JMR32 (Golden Rainbow)

Friday, August 8, 2008 - 08:20 am Click here to edit this post
This was a dead post, but I'll respond on a couple points.

Since your comments re Canada and Mexico were obviously intended as a form of sarcasm, I'll leave them be.

Naturally the United States of today is not the same country as it was when it was founded. Neither is any other country in the world.

The first website you reference seems to be informative, until you get to the part about "the one world government" and the "illuminati". At that point it ceases to be informative and becomes just another "conspiracy theory" website.
It immediately makes any rational discussion of it's merits impossible, and makes any further argument the site offers highly suspect.

Despite what the text of usavsus says, there is only one Constitution of the United States of America. It has been amended over the years in an effort to refine it's intent. For the most part it has succeeded.

The section on the flag. It does NOT say the fringe represents our country being captured, it states that it represents the FLAG has been captured. I would differ with that interpretation. And I for one am happy the "civil" flag is no longer flown, it looks ludicrous.

I will agree with one premise from the site. In the Civil War the Confederacy was actually more in tune with the Founding fathers than the Union. Not because of the slavery issue, that is just evil. But because of the State's Rights issue. The USA (as I've mentioned in other posts) was founded as a confederation of the 13 colonies, based upon the model of the Iroquois 7 Nations.
But the Union won the war, in large part because the Confederacy was a group of individual states each with their own way of doing things. Two examples: The governor of Georgia, in the early stages of the war, refused to send any troops outside of the state and refused to allow troops from other states to enter Georgia. The other example deals with the gauge of the railroads. Each state had it's own gauge. For troop and supply movement, when a train reached the border of a state they had to get off, cross the border and remount in the new state.

You're entitled to your opinions, in fact I feel that this country has gone in the wrong direction with a lot of it's policies myself. But please do not claim that you can "skool" any of us in real life. Been around a long time, served my country proudly, and kind of get upset when someone comes out with a statement that basically says "boy, you're a dummy, here's the way things really are."

One thing I found MOST interesting on the site was the request for donations "only in pre-1964 silver coinage". Can make a nice profit off that, eh?

Anyway, good luck in the game. But give up trying to "skool" us, we're a lost cause. I can always turn on Coast to Coast to find out what the "Illuminati" is up to!

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