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Jo Salkilld (Golden Rainbow)

Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - 02:24 am Click here to edit this post
Wrong Soldier.


Communism is the theory that everyone is equal and gets the same

No, "to each according to his needs". You were the one who first quoted Marx. Different people have different needs, therefore they don't all get the same.


war is bad for profits. Death and destruction don't facilitate greed

War is only bad for the profits of the collective. Many (greedy) individuals can, and do, profit from war. Death and destruction can, and do, facilitate individual greed.

Lastly, Nazi Germany called itself a socialist state, but its principles were fascist which I personally see as an extreme and twisted version of capitalism: elitism taken to the nth degree. I'd also be interested to hear your argument as to how fascism is predicated on the idea of collective rights.

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Appreciated_Customer (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - 02:29 am Click here to edit this post


Nazi Germany-Hitler used the Great Depression to turn many Germans against the Jews and thus inspired hate.

Wrong. We are taught this in school but it is a very bad version of the truth. Hitler didn't hate Jews based on ethnicity or religion and he certainly didn't drum up support to persecute them because of the Great Depression. What he hated was that Jews with a Zionist agenda were exploiting the German economy to their own benefit at the cost of societal loss in Germany, similar to what many people believe Jewish Zionists are doing to the American economy.

Also another very widely believed false rumor is that Hitler hated anyone Jewish based on the idea that they were simply Jewish. His hate was rather based on what a certain group of individuals within the Jewish community in Germany were doing to harm his country. Which he very much loved. He had a high degree of Nationalist Pride as noted, but the truth about why the Jews were persecuted in Germany is highly obscured in what has been promoted by a propagandist media and crooked historians.

In fact one of Hitler's top Field Marshall that Hitler favored very much, had a Jewish father. There was legislation that preceded Hitler's ascension to full dictator that prohibited Jews from Serving in the German military. The disposition of the German populace against the Jewish people was already in place as Hitler seized power. Hitler also went above and beyond to cover up the Field Marshalls true parentage in order to keep him in the military as one of his trusted advisers. His name was Erhard Milch. His mother was an Aryan and his Father a Jew.

Hitler did not hate Jews by any means. But he loved his country enough to hate those among the Jews who promoted communism and were ruining the German economy. The true fact is that the Anti-Semitic behaviors that were manifest in Germany were of the origin of the Nazi Party. Not Hitler himself. But Hitler went along with the general persecution in order to remain a populist and fulfill his goal to attain power. He even used his position to elevate many Jews, the easiest and most popular way was to allow them to serve in the Army, which were prohibited as a result of the Nuremberg Laws.

Hitler signed a forged document he knew to be false in order to keep a personal (JEW)friend Erhard Milch, in the top ranks of the German Military. When this reality was leaked and met with protests from the people, about having a Jew in the Nazi high command, Hermann Goering stated, "I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.", because the secret was out.

It was widely known that Hitler was in fact not as anti-semitic as we are made to believe. Why do you think that so many Jews served in the Army and carried out the commands of the Party tasked with their persecution? Hitler may have done things himself to make himself appear as anti-Semitic as rest of the party and the national population. This was mostly banter to attain power and then later on to retain it.

Facts on Hitler and Jews.

** Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called "full Jews" SERVED IN THE GERMAN MILITARY WITH ADOLF HITLER'S KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full general, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded German's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of Norther Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Mitch's Jewish identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.

Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police (Ordmmngdienst) AND CONCENTRATION CAMP GUARDS (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism<----(Jewish Zionist)?

Jojo T. Hun (Fearless Blue)

Wednesday, November 2, 2011 - 04:47 am Click here to edit this post
Jo, Soldier was quoting Tom Morgan in his definition of communism, which is indeed a poor paraphrasing of Marx's famous words.

Pure, extreme capitalism is something very different than what Nazi Germany had. Capitalism is not defined by elitism, nor by greed. It involves free markets, strong legal protections of private property rights, and little other interference from government. Individual "capitalists" can bastardize the system by co-opting the powers of government, just as individual "communists" can.

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