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Monday, September 8, 2008 - 11:28 pm  Holy Crap! The most wonderful message Humanity has ever recieved has been ignored. You should read up on it. It will blow your Non Denominational Christian mind. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (wish I could use an 6523737634 point font to write this!@!@!!!!!) NON DENOMINATIONAL CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONLY CHRISTIANS TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO JESUS TEACHINGS!!!!!!!! YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF HERE!!!!! ""Christianity" is a religion created ABOUT Jesus Christ. Not the message he himself preached. And no its not love. Try again." AS QUOTED STRAIGHT FROM YOU, YOURSELF. THIS IS A COMPLETELY ABSOLUTELY FALSE STATEMENT!!!! THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT NON-DENOMINATIONAL CHRISTIANITY AS OPPOSED TO DENOMINATIONS. I ONLY USED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS A REFFERENCE TO YOUR INCREDIBLY FALSE STATEMENTS YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING ALL ALONG!!! Now, enough with the caps. PAY ATTENTION!!!! The "Kingdom of God" is refferenced as a REWARD AT THE END OF YOUR LIFE! The journey is what matters most. If you have ever read Stephen King's Dark Tower series, you would understand this. The "journey," in this case, is living life here on Earth! If you lead your life the way Jesus TAUGHT you to lead your life, your reward is in the Kingdom of God - Heaven. The WAY to the Kingdom of God - Heaven, is through doing what Jesus tells us to do....loving your neighbor, turning the other cheek, and confessing to Jesus your sins, and asking him to save your soul. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS CURRENTLY!!! The CURRENT situation is that we are alive right here, right now, and what we are doing with the right here and right now. Right now, I am using my time horribly. But I have like 20 minutes to burn, so I figure why the hell not? Now, the future doesn't matter, the past does not matter, what matters is the PRESENT, and the PRESENT is so fleeting, that we are to CHERISH the present. (That is my OWN philosophy). Now, to THIS quote you made: "All "Christianity" is ABOUT Jesus. Not what he taught his disciples to preach. Not what they themselves proclaimed as his teachings. What was Christs message? You can find it easily... Its the second most common phrase in the Bible after Lord. Listed 127 times. Go. Read. Open your mind. Its good for you." Again, I used Catholicism, because, well, it is the ONE denomination that I know MOST about! And comparing what Catholicism is about, to my non-denominational beliefs, they actually CLASH quite a bit! But that is besides the point. Take THIS line for instance: "All "Christianity" is ABOUT Jesus." UUUMMM...by using the word "ALL," you are leaving me open to complete disrepute this entire quote. By coming up with even a SINGLE so-called "Chrsitian doctrine," that is not Christian at all, and is used BY the majority of Christians (Catholics, for instance), I win! Especially when you follow up the word "ALL" with the words "Christianity is ABOUT Jesus," then the above paragraph is completely true! And what blows my "Non-Denominational Christian mind," is your lack of the ability to actually READ, AND think about the meaning behind the words AT THE SAME TIME. I guarantee you that I have read the Bible many times more in my younger years then you ever will in your entire life. In fact, I have read more VERSIONS of the Bible than you will read the Bible PERIOD in your entire life....That is INCLUDING 2 different ITALIAN versions of the Bible! I have also read the DaVinci Code, To Reign in Hell (both of which are complete works of fiction.) Other books, such as the Case for Christ, COUNTLESS articles, periodical, and documentaries on the subject. I even subscribe to Nat Geo, Scientific American (which is a "modern technology publication,") and I used to subscribe to a VERY good one that was about ALL current events in the world. The mag also had various articles on ancient cultures, and past civilizations/religions. It was a veyr good one, cannot remember the name of it, for the life of me! But yeah...I am VERY well-read, thank you very much. I have also been to Italy, Germany, and Southern France....twice. Been to Cali, Tijuana, Niagra Falls, all up and down the Eastern Seaboard, and I am only 25, so I am also well-traveled. My next destination is going to be either Tokyo, or Sydney. So go away. This is my very last response to this thread, unless Bob has something to say. He's usually pretty constructive with his posts, and I have a lot of respect for the old man! ;P
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| Tuesday, September 9, 2008 - 01:26 am /me shakes head.
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| Tuesday, September 9, 2008 - 02:43 pm To return to the discussion about abiogenesis (the creation of self-replicating life from non-replicating matter), I have just come across a very interesting article on the influence of viruses on the origin of life. My biology is not really up to the level of fully digesting the article but it was certainly interesting. It's two years old, so there may be more recent data out there that I haven't yet come across. Also, when the article was written, it was when there were few scientific papers dealing with this aspect of abiogenesis. Bear this in mind when reading it as it means that the article is far from conclusive. It also deals with an aspect of the evolution of life that is thought to have occurred AFTER self-replicating organic molecules had developed. It deals with the step from there to self-contained cells which protected the self-replicating molecules within from external corruption. A viral influence on life's origins? from Ars Technica.
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| Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 10:19 pm X-mas was created to combat the only pagan festival that survived the coming of christ; namely saturnalia. MM: one does not have to be fluent in a language, as long as one gets information from respectable sources that ARE fluent in that language; and yes, while the "vulgate" was very badly translated, it has been noted that if God did want to write a religion, he should not have done it in Greek, or at least should have learned it better. But, this whole conversation reminds me of a the parable of the mad man in the market place... you know the one; he carried a lantern and kept crying out: "God is dead."
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| Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 12:15 am You aren't referring to Christmas, but to its date. I consider it a pretty ingenious move... One of the best I've ever seen. Live and learn. For all I know, we should be celebrating Christmas somewhen around March and April.
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| Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 09:01 pm Yes, my bad. Should have phrased it better. Its date was chosen to coincide with the Saturnalia, and it took almost all of it's "rituals". Personally, I think Saturnalia was better: two weeks of gift giving, instead of one night. But, hey, that's progress. ;) And, I totally agree - and history judges with you - that the move was very effective.
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| Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 10:04 pm Most religions have a winter festival. And, like most religions, they're based on earlier pagan festivals celebrating the passing of mid-winter (longest night of the year) with a feast. You find simmilar festivals in the southern hemisphere during the mid-year months.
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| Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 10:38 pm Yes... But the Catholic Church purposely implemented Christmas on the 25th of December with the intention to assimilate and suppress other cults. If we really were to celebrate the birth of the Messiah, it should be, as I already said, around March or April. Other rituals simply slipped into Catholicism. Carnival, for instance, and... not sure about Halloween. I believe Halloween is on the 31st of October. We have a similar thing on the 2nd of November, spiritually speaking. There are other several more, but small, regional rituals that became 'catholic' as well, even though they changed nearly nothing. This practice to assimilate rituals from other religions isn't unique to the Catholicism, though. I believe all religions with a large number of practitioners have assimilated other rituals. I like using the term Catholicism referring to Christianity before the Great Schism. 
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| Friday, September 12, 2008 - 05:47 am All Hallow's Eve, LG. That is the Halloween reference you were looking for there.
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